In this episode, Rahsaan Patterson talks about the first time he heard Lalah Hathaway on the radio singing “Heaven Knows”. The introspective conversation that ensues deals with the transformative power that great music can have and those flashpoint moments that we have when we are presented with great art for the first time.

BTW, if you don’t have Lalah Hathaway (or any titles from her discography) do your ears a favor and just click purchase…now. Enjoy!


Ivan Orr is a multi-instrumentalist, composer, performer, and writer. A native of Charlottesville, Virginia Ivan was involved with the forming and nascent days of The Music Resource Center as its first Program Director. A graduate of Virginia Commonwealth University’s Department of Music, Ivan currently resides in Richmond, VA where he maintains an active performance and production schedule while serving as the Music Editor for Grown Folks Music, a position he has held since 2010.